[MEGATHREAD] Fallout 4 || Contraption, Vault-Tec, Nuka World

[blockguy™]

if i had enough money for the pip boy i'd probably put it on once, forget around with it, and never touch it again

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[Oasis]

if i had enough money for the pip boy i'd probably put it on once, forget around with it, and never touch it again

I have a feeling I'll probably use it on the stand while I play the game. Seems like it'd be uncomfortable to use a keyboard and wear it at a desk.

To be fair though, I've always wanted a pip-boy, even just a static unusable one would've been cool.

[Nonnel]

after playing a lot more new vegas, i've decided it is better than 3

[Bushido]

what baffles me about the situation between the legion and the ncr is that the ncr is using proper like machined and field-tested rifles and evidently every soldier can at least hit their target so outside of weird video gamey abstractions like 'automatic weapons deal less damage on a shot per shot basis because realistically only one in 3 bullets in a burst will actually hit so the damage output of the service rifle at it's best has to reflect that' how the actual forget can the ncr possibly lose to anything but another faction with proper firearms

like it's not like the ncr's guns are prone to forgetin exploding or anything they might be on the low end of the weapon spectrum and compared to other military forces they're probably less then middle of the road but for forgets sake you've got a gun and the other guys don't

is the implication that the ncr is actually like cartoonishly incompetent? like troopers are actually absurdly inaccurate and useless and none of them have anything even close to proper training to the extent that a single guy who has actually worked out how to hold his breath and look down the sights is more effective then like a forgetin squad of soldiers, so you get situations where like a 20-man ncr force is up against and 20-man legion wave and during the like 5 minutes that the legionnaires are running across open ground to meet them the entire 20-man fireteam hits like, one guy

and then that guy's not even dead, he only really got winged

like the entire reason why the legion still exists is because not a single soul in the ncr who isnt named 'boone' can hit the broad side of a barn

[Col. Derontchi]

and factor decides who is worth not enslaving?? from what we see in this game all it takes is to live in the wrong country to be enslaved for life. even if they do spare some people, it doesnt even slightly justify all the rest.

Never did I say any of it was really justified, I just said that they had their base intentions, with just a hint of supremacy.

after playing a lot more new vegas, i've decided it is better than 3

Same, Vegas has just a bit more content.

[Oasis]

-stormtroopersyndromesnip-

Always hated this about New Vegas. It seems like they nerfed guns or buffed melee so much so that they were both viable options, when in reality they shouldn't be equal fighting methods in the same situation. We should've seen lethal damage with firearms at range and lethal maneuverability with melee at closer ranges or against those without firearms. :P

[ZombiLoin]

what baffles me about the situation between the legion and the ncr is that the ncr is using proper like machined and field-tested rifles and evidently every soldier can at least hit their target so outside of weird video gamey abstractions like 'automatic weapons deal less damage on a shot per shot basis because realistically only one in 3 bullets in a burst will actually hit so the damage output of the service rifle at it's best has to reflect that' how the actual forget can the ncr possibly lose to anything but another faction with proper firearms

like it's not like the ncr's guns are prone to forgetin exploding or anything they might be on the low end of the weapon spectrum and compared to other military forces they're probably less then middle of the road but for forgets sake you've got a gun and the other guys don't

is the implication that the ncr is actually like cartoonishly incompetent? like troopers are actually absurdly inaccurate and useless and none of them have anything even close to proper training to the extent that a single guy who has actually worked out how to hold his breath and look down the sights is more effective then like a forgetin squad of soldiers, so you get situations where like a 20-man ncr force is up against and 20-man legion wave and during the like 5 minutes that the legionnaires are running across open ground to meet them the entire 20-man fireteam hits like, one guy

and then that guy's not even dead, he only really got winged

like the entire reason why the legion still exists is because not a single soul in the ncr who isnt named 'boone' can hit the broad side of a barn

I think the implication is that the NCR is absurdly outnumbered and consistently short on reinforcements and supplies, and that your average NCR soldier is an ill-disciplined conscript compared to your average legion soldier. When you're a conscript with just a week's worth of training and you only have 9 bullets when you're outnumbered 10 to 1 there's a pretty big chance you're going to get forgeted hard.

That's what I think the lore explanation is. Gameplay is an entirely different matter, and I agree with you there.

[MTrRxx]

So. There was this Imgur image right? Well, the picture was of a Twitter post about this one guy applying for a Film.

He puts up a second post a while later saying he might of accidently might of revealed a Fallout Movie.

[ZombiLoin]

Never did I say any of it was really justified, I just said that they had their base intentions, with just a hint of supremacy. Same, Vegas has just a bit more content.

Exactly. Their base intentions are morally driven, but they just take things WAYYY too far.

Morally driven implies that their actions have a non-evil element to them. They don't. The actions themselves are intrinsically evil, and no amount of moral posturing or half-assed justification will change that.

Additionally, saying that they "take things WAY too far" implies that they are going something "good" or doing something that can possibly be overbearing. I posit that in order to "take something too far" there has to be a good act behind it. There's are practically no good acts in the legion.

[Tom Gunn]

Wait people are saying that the Legion is morally driven with good intentions?

LOL

Sure, all those people they basically burned or crucified in several key locations of the Mojave was done under good intention. 

[Harm94]

They crucified that filthy Khan drug runner though! See, good I tell you!

[Qwepir]

Morally driven implies that their actions have a non-evil element to them. They don't. The actions themselves are intrinsically evil, and no amount of moral posturing or half-assed justification will change that.

Additionally, saying that they "take things WAY too far" implies that they are going something "good" or doing something that can possibly be overbearing. I posit that in order to "take something too far" there has to be a good act behind it. There's are practically no good acts in the legion.

buh-buh-but
theres that guy and
he says there arent raiders in legion lands!! trading is safe there!

is the reply i always hear from legion tards

[Renousim]

ncr sucks
legion sucks

[ThatRandomGuy]

ncr sucks
legion sucks

[Tayasaurus]

They crucified that filthy Khan drug runner though! See, good I tell you!

"Please help me"

*punch*

"oof"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYWi6-BcGCQ