Bible Prophecy Overview

[weaver123]

Looks like your mother has lost some weight.

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[Planr]

I don't care for how you're presenting a religion of grace and salvation.

as i said before, i'm not here to evangelize random teenagers on the internet. i gave up this kind of public preaching stuff a long time ago, as Bolster pointed out on the previous page.

witnessing to people is only really effective on an individual personal level anyway. hearing it from a friend one-on-one is a lot more meaningful to a person than hearing someone publicly preach it on a forum. i mean you're welcome to go ahead and try, but don't get mad just because i'm not following along.

[beachbum111111]

Looks like your mother has lost some weight.

Nice burn kid. Truly an enlightened individual

[weaver123]

Nice burn kid. Truly an enlightened individual

You're 2.

[Darryl McKoy]

as i said before, i'm not here to evangelize random teenagers on the internet. witnessing to people is only really effective on an individual personal level. i gave up this kind of public preaching stuff a long time ago, as Bolster pointed out on the previous page.

i remember reading a thread where you were welcoming the end of the world because of how evil we all are or something stupid

have you changed your position on that?

[SWAT One]

I know plenty of generous, loving and peaceful people that don't conform to Christianity. I want to go where they are going when they die. Christianity seems like bad mojo to me, especially since it seems to condemn most of our populace to eternal suffering.

If you would be so kind to lend your eyes to read, I would like to shed some light on what God thinks about "the world", describing people of the world:

¹⁸ “If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. ¹⁹ If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. ²⁰ Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also. ²¹ But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because they do not know Him who sent Me. ²² If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin. ²³ He who hates Me hates My Father also. ²⁴ If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would have no sin; but now they have seen and also hated both Me and My Father. ²⁵ But this happened that the word might be fulfilled which is written in their law, ‘They hated Me without a cause.’

Now, if you want a TL:DR of this, it basically says that God and the world are at odds, and that if Christians were of the world, the world would not hate them.  However, since you are of the world within the context of this verse, it is important to know that the Bible works inter-contextually.  Next comes the verse that a lot of people know, but often do not include the following verse:

¹⁶ For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. ¹⁷ For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

In context, what it means is that despite the hatred that the world showed toward God, God still loved the world, despite the fact that they trampled His name, killed His people, and committed all sin against them, and reached out to not just His people, but the world as a whole to make a sacrifice in able to redeem them.  Much of the New Testament following the gospels, especially through the writings of Paul explore in depth more of what this means.  I hope at the least this was informative.  If it's not for you, then I won't force it, but I thank you if you took the time to read it.

as i said before, i'm not here to evangelize random teenagers on the internet. i gave up this kind of public preaching stuff a long time ago, as Bolster pointed out on the previous page.

witnessing to people is only really effective on an individual personal level anyway. hearing it from a friend one-on-one is a lot more meaningful to a person than hearing someone publicly preach it on a forum. i mean you're welcome to go ahead and try, but don't get mad just because i'm not following along.

I am aware.  And I thank you for your due caution in that respect, but again, that is not what I am saying.

[Darryl McKoy]

and that if Christians were of the world, the world would not hate them.

Christians are aliens. Got it.

[SWAT One]

Christians are aliens. Got it.

ha

[Planr]

i remember reading a thread where you were welcoming the end of the world because of how evil we all are or something stupid

have you changed your position on that?

what i will say is i think there is a lot of evil in the world, caused by people, and that i do think that such evil needs to be stopped once and for all. keep in mind that "end of the world" is not necessarily a bad thing. if it meant that everyone dies and faces eternal torment, i would completely agree with you that such an "end of the world" would be terrible.

however, the bible portrays the end of the world as something quite different from such a simple fire-and-brimstone apocalypse; it portrays the end of the world as something that ultimately does good. people who willingly choose to continue doing evil without remorse will face terrible punishment, according to the bible, but those who do otherwise and choose to follow god will instead go to heaven and have an awesome time forever on. polar opposite afterlife destinations.

[Darryl McKoy]

ha

Have some faith

[weaver123]

We have the potential to unite as one, save our planet, reach far into the Galaxy, colonize and transform new worlds, live for hundreds of years and virtually eliminate poverty. There is so much we don't know and we make huge bounds in scientific progress every month. Anything is possible.

yet God said we're doomed, but we shall be saved by belief, to give ourselves to him for salvation in the afterlife? Just smile and wave to the non-believers right? I think it's an ancient scheme to divide and conquer us all.

The billions of dead non-believers burning in hell right now, for being raised with different beliefs? Too bad for them right? They just weren't gracious enough as god's children.

Yeah, maybe there's some form of an afterlife, but not like scripture, contorted by man. The God I believe in doesn't care what book you worship. He just wants you to be grateful for what you're given, live your life to the fullest, protect your world, respect others, and love deeply.

[TristanLuigi]

Religion is something I'm utterly bafiled by. I by no means hate religious people (if perhaps because they outnumber me), but I just don't get why people go along with it. If someone came up to you in the street and handed you a slightly historical book, telling you everything in it is true because it was paraphrased from am all-powerful conveniently-unobservable being, you wouldn't believe him. What's special about this particular old book that drives people to take its word? We're not doing it with Aristotle's works. Why this one? What's the draw? Shouldn't some alarm bells be going off?

Again, I don't hate Christians or Christianity. I just can't understand why SO many people are willing to just take such a huge leap of faith (pun not intended) in believing it. It's sort of like when a meme, song, or app catches on and you can't figure out why the hell it's so popular. For all you can tell, the app/etc is mediocre at best. That's like me with Christianity - it just seems like a mediocre worldview to have simply because it can't be backed up by concrete data. If you can't logically and and rationally explain why it's true like you can with economic worldviews, doesn't they just mean you admit that it makes no sense?  Humans are, or should be, beings of logic.

[Darryl McKoy]

I just can't understand why SO many people are willing to just take such a huge leap of faith

Daddy issues

[Lord Tony®]

Guarantee a "god" could be created through science.

[Xeidious*]

Guarantee a "god" could be created through science.

Honestly it is possible, but it would take decades of research and  human testing to get it right, though, not on the level of someone thinking things into existence, that's extremely unlikely.

I like to think life was planted on earth as a last ditch resort to keep "life" alive, by some distant race of beings that were dying out along with all other life in our solar system, it's only a theory though, it's a cool, but sad thought, that there could have been life on other planets like mars, actually it's almost scary too, thinking that we could have the same fate.

oh no.