Is islam a religion of peace?

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Is it?

Yes
22 (44%)
NO!
28 (56%)

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islam is a religion of this loving richard

What I think is silly is saying this somehow represents atheism as an ideology.
It's an issue of how in Atheism there is no absolute standard for morality, so in communist countries where it is the accepted philosophy, they reject the need to answer a higher power for their actions, so they can find it acceptable to themselves to do whatever they wish to sustain their regime, including mass-murdering millions of people.

Riddler considered himself christian; the motto of the wehrmacht wouldn't have been "god with us" if he hated christianity

his problem was with catholicism
Interestingly, radical islamic sects joined forces with national socialist Germany during WW2 because of their shared hatred of jews

Interestingly, radical islamic sects joined forces with national socialist Germany during WW2 because of their shared hatred of jews
Remember this gem?

It's an issue of how in Atheism there is no absolute standard for morality, so in communist countries where it is the accepted philosophy, they reject the need to answer a higher power for their actions, so they can find it acceptable to themselves to do whatever they wish to sustain their regime, including mass-murdering millions of people.
Are you really saying that if the violent dictators had been religious, they wouldn't have committed those atrocities?

Are you really saying that if the violent dictators had been religious, they wouldn't have committed those atrocities?
this dude never heard of the forgetin crusades

It's an issue of how in Atheism there is no absolute standard for morality, so in communist countries where it is the accepted philosophy, they reject the need to answer a higher power for their actions, so they can find it acceptable to themselves to do whatever they wish to sustain their regime, including mass-murdering millions of people.
Do you blame Christianity for every atrocity committed by Western Europe and the US from colonization to eradication of locals to slavery to modern war crimes, too?

Are you really saying that if the violent dictators had been religious, they wouldn't have committed those atrocities?
What he doesn't realise is that Communism is a religion.

Do you blame Christianity for every atrocity committed by Western Europe and the US from colonization to eradication of locals to slavery to modern war crimes, too?
hells yeah


Are you really saying that if the violent dictators had been religious, they wouldn't have committed those atrocities?
Not at all. I'm saying that if they were religious they would have a standard of right and wrong they would have to adhere to and a higher power to answer to. Anything goes in an atheistic totalitarian state. There's lots of stuff that (for an example of a religious dictatorship) Iran's regime could not do without facing severe backlash from the rest of their country, such as supporting gay marriage or saying that women should be able to vote, own property, choose their own husband, etc. They would literally be overwhelmed by the other Muslims in their country and quickly overthrown because the religion instilled in the population gives the populace a very fierce sense of determination. This is pretty much what happened in Libya when Qaddafi got overthrown.

In an Atheistic country, the people, if they are not religious, have very little to hope for in fighting back, especially since the government can do whatever it wants in response. A highly religious populace combined with a religious government helps regulate the government and keep it from becoming all-powerful, because ultimately the people devote their allegiance to their religion rather than the state, and they have a hope and a reason to fight and overthrow it if it steps out of line. As pointed out earlier in this thread, that's a huge reason why communist dictatorships do everything in their power to silence and stomp out religion, because it threatens their arbitrary totalitarian rule. That's also why they establish their leaders and states as gods themselves, because if they can get the people to fall in love with their government, they will be less likely to revolt no matter what the government does.

Do you blame Christianity for every atrocity committed by Western Europe and the US from colonization to eradication of locals to slavery to modern war crimes, too?
No, because those atrocities are not consistent with Christian teachings. In Atheism, there's nothing absolutely wrong with murdering tons of people, because there is no such thing as right and wrong. Morality is whatever you want it to be.
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No, because those atrocities are not consistent with Christian teachings. In Atheism, there's nothing absolutely wrong with murdering tons of people, because there is no such thing as right and wrong. Morality is whatever you want it to be.
but in noting that morality is subjective in atheism, you're admitting that not all atheists are like that and invalidate the point. atheism isn't to blame for the atrocities in communist countries, the particular moral codes of their leaders is.

but in noting that morality is subjective in atheism, you're admitting that not all atheists are like that and invalidate the point. atheism isn't to blame for the atrocities in communist countries, the particular moral codes of their leaders is.
Well of course not all atheists are to blame, I never said they were. Atheistic thought merely provides a justification to communist dictators to do whatever they want.

is islam even a religion