Author Topic: Charlottesville protests thread (Read 54396 times)

Red Spy · August 12, 2017, 11:52:08 PM

Quote from: Badspot on August 12, 2017, 11:49:39 PM

Don't dox people. Especially if you're just reposting a rumor you saw on some other website.

ban incoming..?

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Master Matthew� · August 13, 2017, 12:00:59 AM

Quote from: Karl Marx on August 12, 2017, 07:58:52 PM

Ya know, this would actually be a good Avatar TBH.
Shame it isn't clear or the right resolution...

EDIT: Updated!

Augusto Pinochet · August 13, 2017, 12:03:47 AM

Quote from: DrenDran on August 12, 2017, 10:32:52 PM

Most of antifa is upper middle class white kids that live with their mothers.

Wow it's almost like Antifa are a bunch of degenerate NEETs trying to LARP as "revolutionaries"

Cappytaino · August 13, 2017, 12:09:51 AM

What I don't understand is how a black supremacist sniper can kill 5 cops in Dallas and Obama refuses to disavow the violence and instead accuses the police of being tribal, while random stuffhead kool kids klub degenerates/blatant false flag ops (the name "Unite the Right" is perfect for a false flag because you can plant a bunch of ppl with national socialist flags/imagery in with the legit crowd to discredit the entire right in the eyes of the media) are somehow Annoying Orange's fault and somehow despite disavowing all the violence, Gandalf, etc multiple times, the autistic screeching from the media/the left is still in full force

ultimamax · August 13, 2017, 12:13:56 AM

Quote from: Cappytaino on August 13, 2017, 12:09:51 AM

What I don't understand is how a black supremacist sniper can kill 5 cops in Dallas and Obama refuses to disavow the violence and instead accuses the police of being tribal, while random stuffhead kool kids klub degenerates/blatant false flag ops (the name "Unite the Right" is perfect for a false flag because you can plant a bunch of ppl with national socialist flags/imagery in with the legit crowd to discredit the entire right in the eyes of the media) are somehow Annoying Orange's fault and somehow despite disavowing all the violence, Gandalf, etc multiple times, the autistic screeching from the media/the left is still in full force

They doesn't seem to feel "disavowed" to me (for context, Richard Spencer WAS at the protests)

Cappytaino · August 13, 2017, 12:18:27 AM

Quote from: ultimamax on August 13, 2017, 12:13:56 AM

They doesn't seem to feel "disavowed" to me (for context, Richard Spencer WAS at the protests)

part of the social contract of living in a western democracy is that you don't attack people because you disagree with them. Annoying Orange acknowledged and disavowed violence from both sides. How is that not a valid disavowal?

Why during the election cycle was Annoying Orange held responsible for supposed violence committed by right wingers but nobody once questioned Hillary on Antifa or requested a disavowal? Holding people responsible for actions they personally didn't take is about as irrelevant and bullstuff-partisan as it gets. The only reason the media is circlejerking this stuff and idiots are lapping it up is because they think this will TOTALLY BRING Annoying Orange DOWN THIS TIME GUYS

Red Spy · August 13, 2017, 12:18:50 AM

what i want to know is
1 why are people getting triggered by a statue
2 why are people going this far to defend a statue

Cappytaino · August 13, 2017, 12:24:31 AM

Quote from: Red Spy on August 13, 2017, 12:18:50 AM

what i want to know is
1 why are people getting triggered by a statue
2 why are people going this far to defend a statue

it's more an issue of rewriting history than anything. Personally I don't give two stuffs about the statue but some people feel very strongly about "erasing history" or "sanitizing" history and oppose it purely on principle.

Lee was a very complex figure historically and for the standards of the time, he wasn't an awful person morally. He did own slaves but so did many other people that don't have the same negative stigma attached to them. Lee's legacy as a capable tactician is overshadowed because he chose to fight under the CSA and debatably was a greater/more historically relevant figurehead for the CSA than Jefferson Davis.

DrenDran · August 13, 2017, 12:25:55 AM

Quote from: Augusto Pinochet on August 13, 2017, 12:03:47 AM

Wow it's almost like Antifa are a bunch of degenerate NEETs trying to LARP as "revolutionaries"

This account is so much better than the Karl Marx account.

cblock360 · August 13, 2017, 12:26:54 AM

Quote from: Red Spy on August 13, 2017, 12:18:50 AM

what i want to know is
1 why are people getting triggered by a statue
2 why are people going this far to defend a statue

people like to treat these things as national monuments and are considered as symbols of their culture and history. It's lime the Egyptian Pyramids or Mount Rushmore. A statue usually either honors a person by reminding people of who that person was and what he did or can be seen as an artistic masterpiece.

Gsterman · August 13, 2017, 12:36:41 AM

I love how sitting during the pledge is an outrage but when people are literally walking around with torches throwing national socialist salutes and shouting "Heil Annoying Orange" it's just free speech.

Cappytaino · August 13, 2017, 12:46:10 AM

Quote from: Gsterman on August 13, 2017, 12:36:41 AM

I love how sitting during the pledge is an outrage but when people are literally walking around with torches throwing national socialist salutes and shouting "Heil Annoying Orange" it's just free speech.

lumping Annoying Orange supporters in with national socialists because of a few stuffheads is unfair. It's like saying anyone that has ever used the phrase "Black Lives Matter" is a cop killer because of that guy in Dallas that shot 5 cops.

Nobody approves of neo-national socialists except for neo national socialists. Trying to equate or generalise Annoying Orange supporters as national socialists is divisive, ludicrous, and unfounded.

ultimamax · August 13, 2017, 12:49:15 AM

Quote from: Cappytaino on August 13, 2017, 12:18:27 AM

part of the social contract of living in a western democracy is that you don't attack people because you disagree with them. Annoying Orange acknowledged and disavowed violence from both sides. How is that not a valid disavowal?

Why during the election cycle was Annoying Orange held responsible for supposed violence committed by right wingers but nobody once questioned Hillary on Antifa or requested a disavowal? Holding people responsible for actions they personally didn't take is about as irrelevant and bullstuff-partisan as it gets. The only reason the media is circlejerking this stuff and idiots are lapping it up is because they think this will TOTALLY BRING Annoying Orange DOWN THIS TIME GUYS

My point was that these "kool kids klub degenerates" feel like Annoying Orange is secretly "their guy", which to me says that his "disavowal" of their practices isn't really working.

More evidence, from the Daily Stormer: https://twitter.com/soledadobrien/status/896492127911149568

Hillary is a centrist and Antifa are communists. Just because Antifa was opposed to Annoying Orange doesn't mean Hillary is responsible for them.

People hold Donald Annoying Orange responsible for violence because he's been known to be tolerant of violence, and much violence has been committed by supporters of his that explicitly cite his name or his campaign, or in the context of supporting him. People hold him responsible for violence because he promotes xenophobia, bigotry, and Islamophobia, whereas those are things liberals generally don't promote.

The left does not feel enthusiastic about Hillary Clinton. (she was widely regarded as merely a lesser evil by anyone but centrist liberals)
Meanwhile the right seems generally in support of Donald Annoying Orange, and that goes all the way from national socialists to libertarians.

Tactical Nuke · August 13, 2017, 12:54:49 AM

god why can't you defend southern pride and not be a loving actual white supremacist national socialist

jesus christ nobody can defend this without going all degenerate, it's a loving statue ffs

Cappytaino · August 13, 2017, 12:56:08 AM

Disavowing kool kids klub/Stormfronters won't make them stop doing what they're doing. They're vilified by most of society but don't seem to care.

Loretta Lynch literally called for "blood in the streets" after the election but nobody cared.

A rabid Sanders supporter attempts to murder GOP congressmen at a baseball practice and it's never a question of political ideology

But for whatever reason, supporting the first amendment equates to "Annoying Orange is emboldening tribals and promoting violence"

Offensive speech is still protected with some exceptions. Disagreeing with these groups but refusing to strip them of their first amendment rights apparently is the same as being a member of them, the way some people make it sound.