Do real gamers care about graphics?

[Flying Ace]

Minecraft artwork is technically 32 bit.

yes yes I know, but it's only utilizing 16 squares on most textures to appear like the classic games of the early 90s

I'm so tired of people saying "Gameplay over Graphics". YOU NEED TO HAVE BOTH OF THEM FOR A FUN GAME. THEY ARE BOTH EQUALITY IMPORTANT.

snip'd most of the statment to save space, so your opinion is only 'realistic games' are good?
and your opinion of good graphics is realism?

my opinion of graphics is graphics that fit the style and feel and theme of a game
like say blockland you can tell the default vehicles from most add-on vehicles cause they don't fit as well as the default, same as with TF2 you wouldn't want tf2 to be realistic and not cartoony would you? No of course not cause it would not fit the theme of the weapons and characters


basically what I'm saying is graphics should fit the scheme of what the game is going for

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[Fredulus]

snip'd most of the statment to save space, so your opinion is only 'realistic games' are good?

no, where the forget did you get that from

he's saying if a game has good gameplay but the graphics seriously hurt your eyes it's not going to be fun, and if a game has climaxic graphics but the gameplay makes you slap babies it's not going to be fun. all you loving "gamers" need to get off your thrones and realize that all parts of a game contribute to the overall fun.

[Flying Ace]

no, where the forget did you get that from

he's saying if a game has good gameplay but the graphics seriously hurt your eyes it's not going to be fun, and if a game has climaxic graphics but the gameplay makes you slap babies it's not going to be fun. all you loving "gamers" need to get off your thrones and realize that all parts of a game contribute to the overall fun.

if so then why does he say 8bit graphics and 3d together don't look good "AT ALL"

also it's practically impossible to have a 3d 8bit game by todays definition of '3d'

[Tom]

snip'd most of the statment to save space, so your opinion is only 'realistic games' are good?

In order to have fun gaming you have to "forget about reality" and become focused into the game. I'm not saying it has to be realistic, I am saying that the graphics have to be believable so you are absorbed into the game.

if so then why does he say 8bit graphics and 3d together don't look good "AT ALL"

If I wanted my games to look like 800x600 resolution I would play them in 800x600.

[Fredulus]

if so then why does he say 8bit graphics don't look good "AT ALL"

oh, i dont know

possibly




his opinion?????

[tikitai]

oh, i dont know

possibly




his opinion?????

this is the internet
we dont give a stuff about opinions
we are defenders of justice

[Fredulus]

this is the internet
we dont give a stuff about opinions
we are defenders of justice

yeah i should just give up.

[Dj Smash]

I play everything out there, from black ops to minecraft to blockland to SMB.

[Flying Ace]

In order to have fun gaming you have to "forget about reality" and become focused into the game. I'm not saying it has to be realistic, I am saying that the graphics have to be believable so you are absorbed into the game.
If I wanted my games to look like 800x600 resolution I would play them in 800x600.

well I guess I can agree with that cause I have run into games that just make me think "that's not realistic"
or thats so goofy even though I don't usually care about realism it's the fact that the gameplay does not fit the artstyle and animations

so it kinda has to be in between if it's trying to be real it should do it well and if it's trying to be a fun little game with a artsy style it should not try to act real..




basically I want the gameplay to be fun, and the style to flow seamlessly with the experiences the gameplay is trying to deliver
 that's what should define good graphics not realism unless of course the game experience is trying to be 'realism'
someone tell me if I need to rephrase that

[Fredulus]

^^nice save

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someone tell me if I need to rephrase that

nope i think you've done PLENTY of editing for today. just give up

[Jacob/Lee]

Have you every played Black OPs?

Dwarf Fortress looks like a board game because:
It is tile based.
I'm guess lots of things are based on random "dice roles".

As a matter of fact I have played Black Ops.

Dwarf Fortress doesn't look, in the slightest, like a board game. There aren't many things that use "dice rolls" except combat and quality from what I assume.

[Aphtonites]

How can it look like a "Board game"? it's top down 2D, so what? and trying to point at Black ops as the game it "Should look like" is pretty handicapped.

[Littledude]

I'm so tired of people saying "Gameplay over Graphics". YOU NEED TO HAVE BOTH OF THEM FOR A FUN GAME. THEY ARE BOTH EQUALITY IMPORTANT. Gameplay is simply what makes it fun, but having good enough graphics to fit with the style of gameplay. The more real the graphics are, the more you forget about reality.

It's like seasoning food. You need to have both the seasoning and the food itself for it to taste good., but of course everyone has slightly different taste.

ALSO... 8-BIT AND 3D DOSE NOT LOOK GOOD... AT ALL. I don't blame indie developers for using it if they could not make better art, but saying it's "stylized" does not always excuse the fact that it looks like crap. I hope Notch can get Minecraft to look a little better with his new team.

I completely disagree with every word of your post.

[Tokthree]

In order to have fun gaming you have to "forget about reality" and become focused into the game. I'm not saying it has to be realistic, I am saying that the graphics have to be believable so you are absorbed into the game.

I am currently playing STALKER Call of Pripyat on the lowest settings which look like complete stuff, I am enjoying the whole experience and I am also completely immersed.

Graphics don't mean stuff buddy, if you're so thick that you can't even realise that much then you should go back to playing whatever mediocre games you're using as your examples and get out of this thread

[Whoda]

Apogee games > everything nowadays.