how do you feel about transgender people?

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That's not an actual insult.

Also thank you for pointing out that I'm of the majority. You know, the winning side. :^)
>tmw you never win anything in life so you have to glorify the election.

Satin's gonna get a good handy from the boys at reddit for his epic troll haha

This is contradictory. You're essentially saying that people who change their gender and want respect are wrong because they want respect. Your argument is "forget you you can't tell me what to do" which is arrogant and even more self-centered than any sjw telling you to address them in some way.

Think of it like this. When you go over to someone's house and they make food for you, you should say thank you. You don't have to, they aren't any more special than you are, but it's the respectful thing to do. If you're response is "forget you you can't force me to say thank you" you're just saying that you don't want to show respect for someone else. You're just proving that you have some sort of oppositional defiance syndrome or just don't want to be respectful to others.



Except I never said anything about respect. Nice straw man.

On that note, I'm pretty sure that the queer people attacking reporters during that protest in Toronto or wherever in Canada it was weren't thinking "I'd liked to be respected as a person". Nor was the father of a family of four who """became""" a six-year old girl, kissing bikers and working a snow plow. Actually, he may have been thinking about wanting to be respected, but he for sure didn't respect his family's wishes, who wanted a dad and not a half-committed LARPer. When you want respect but you won't give it back, that's called narcissism.

The argument that it's about respect would work if calling non-trans people (or trans people who really really fit into their new gender) "he" or "she" based on their outward appearance were also based around respect. After all, "xi, chi, ji, googabager, etc." are meant to be genders, as are he and she. Problem is, I'm pretty sure most people aren't going around thinking, "this guy'd feel pretty disrespected if I called him a 'she', better go with 'he'". They most likely do it because it's what makes sense.

So if he and she aren't about respect, what does that make the alphabet soup that trans people want you to call them? What warrants respect name-wise as opposed to common sense? Titles.

Know the guy who told us his pronouns were "his majesty"? He rose a pretty good point. What do you call your mom and dad, your boss, a military captain, the Queen of England, etc.? Titles may be about respect, but it's not the "treat others the way you want to be treated" kind of respect. It's the respect that comes with authority. So you see right there my problem with random yahoos demanding my special treatment for reasons based not in science or reason but "special snowflake" syndrome.

I recently had this talk with my extended family. I know my argument.

Also thank you for pointing out that I'm of the majority. You know, the winning side. :^)

Oh, you voted for Annoying Orange?

Except I never said anything about respect. Nice straw man.

On that note, I'm pretty sure that the queer people attacking reporters during that protest in Toronto or wherever in Canada it was weren't thinking "I'd liked to be respected as a person". Nor was the father of a family of four who """became""" a six-year old girl, kissing bikers and working a snow plow. Actually, he may have been thinking about wanting to be respected, but he for sure didn't respect his family's wishes, who wanted a dad and not a half-committed LARPer. When you want respect but you won't give it back, that's called narcissism.

The argument that it's about respect would work if calling non-trans people (or trans people who really really fit into their new gender) "he" or "she" based on their outward appearance were also based around respect. After all, "xi, chi, ji, googabager, etc." are meant to be genders, as are he and she. Problem is, I'm pretty sure most people aren't going around thinking, "this guy'd feel pretty disrespected if I called him a 'she', better go with 'he'". They most likely do it because it's what makes sense.

So if he and she aren't about respect, what does that make the alphabet soup that trans people want you to call them? What warrants respect name-wise as opposed to common sense? Titles.

Know the guy who told us his pronouns were "his majesty"? He rose a pretty good point. What do you call your mom and dad, your boss, a military captain, the Queen of England, etc.? Titles may be about respect, but it's not the "treat others the way you want to be treated" kind of respect. It's the respect that comes with authority. So you see right there my problem with random yahoos demanding my special treatment for reasons based not in science or reason but "special snowflake" syndrome.

I recently had this talk with my extended family. I know my argument.
I understand what you're going at, and I can assure you that not all transgender people are the annoying landwhales you see on TV. There are some who just change their gender and just want to be acknowledged as being that gender. The people who are like 'call me this or you're a tribal national socialist Riddler whitey' are really loving annoying, but that shouldn't be an excuse for you to never acknowledge anyone else who is transgender. Hurting a majority because of a minority's actions is not the way to go through with things. It's hypocrisy and just drives everyone into a ditch.

If you encounter someone who looks like a girl but is actually a boy and you mislabel them with a pronoun, it's really not your fault and if they get angry at you, they're probably just attention whores. Expecting everyone to automatically know what gender you are by default is unrealistically stupid, but if you know someone is a different gender, it would be common courtesy to address them by the pronoun.

It simply boils down to how accepting and reasonable you're willing to be. Yes, there are others who are unreasonable and want this whole white patriarchy thing to be destroyed and every male to be enslaved, but they're just a vocal minority. If you can, just be respectful of someone else's feelings or identity. It's not that hard either.
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So you see right there my problem with random yahoos demanding my special treatment for reasons based not in science or reason but "special snowflake" syndrome.
Heh, ignore anybody who wants to go by "xi, chi, ji, googabager, etc." You've fallen for a Tumblr meme. Actually cases of being transgender are recognized by science and generally they just want to go by he or she.



yeah non-binary "xe/xim" people are just plain nuts

they're fine, but they need to shut the forget up like nobody cares if you want to have your own special pronouns and bathroom signs because you're a man with no richard
if you were born a male, you're technically a male. if you get surgery to get a vagina, that makes you a female. you don't need to be referred to as frisk for the rest of your life.

That's not an actual insult.

Also thank you for pointing out that I'm of the majority. You know, the winning side. :^)
No, you aren't part of the majority. The majority of people, most Annoying Orange voters included, aren't knuckle dragging nitwits like you and your /r/the_donald circlejerk.
Oh, you voted for Annoying Orange?
I doubt he's old enough to drive, let alone vote.

No, you aren't part of the majority. The majority of people, most Annoying Orange voters included, aren't knuckle dragging nitwits like you and your /r/the_donald circlejerk.I doubt he's old enough to drive, let alone vote.
Because insulting is the only way to prove your point.

We're not all so different, are we. :^)

I doubt he's old enough to drive, let alone vote.
His profile says he's 20


His profile says he's 20
you're profile says you're 18; clearly profile ages can lie