who are worse, sjws or anti sjws

Poll

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sjw
57 (45.2%)
anti sjw
13 (10.3%)
both
56 (44.4%)

Total Members Voted: 126

Author Topic: who are worse, sjws or anti sjws  (Read 11832 times)

Are you seriously trying to defend and call SJWs smart

Have you been living under a rock ooooooooor
On both political sides people like to convince themselves that their political opponents are just loving morons or something. Nowadays it's very easy to just end up only getting information from a source you agree with and to only talk with people you agree with. That doesn't make you fundamentally stupid necessarily, just misguided. I don't live with that kind of delusion about people I politically disagree with. I don't think most people on the right or stupid, just that they're doing harm to people.

If you're just going to lap up funny memes about genders and Tumblr and attack helicopters, then of course you're going to think SJWs are dumb, and your only line of rhetoric will be "have you been living under a rock" because something that's not necessarily accurate seems 100% apparent to you.

And yet on republicans have a higher average wage then democrats. But yeah being 40K in debt from student loans sure made you smart  :cookieMonster:
I don't think there's much of a correlation between wage and intelligence. Plenty of smart people end up in jobs that don't pay that well. And is it a surprise that rich people would subscribe to a party who's ideology is about letting them pay less taxes? Also I have hella financial aid (thanks welfare state)

This is as smug and handicapped as saying "reality has an x bend"
Is it possible to hold any sort of substantial political belief without thinking it's based in reality? It was definitely a smug comment though

Also I have hella financial aid (thanks welfare state)

If you use the word "hella" then your IQ is confirmed to be below 65.

I don't think there's much of a correlation between wage and intelligence. Plenty of smart people end up in jobs that don't pay that well. And is it a surprise that rich people would subscribe to a party who's ideology is about letting them pay less taxes? Also I have hella financial aid (thanks welfare state)

Doesn't matter what you think. One person has a career in a trade and is making a decent wage, the other is working minimum wage after sinking themselves into 40k in debt with a degree that they will never use. Which one is smarter?
« Last Edit: May 08, 2017, 06:56:14 PM by beachbum111111 »

Is it possible to hold any sort of substantial political belief without thinking it's based in reality? It was definitely a smug comment though

I mean when people say stuff like "oh yeah reality definitly swings conservative forget the libs"

Wait that's a Matthew impression

I think people are getting their terms mixed up.

When everyone says "liberal", I hear "libertarian". I understand "classic liberalism" is a thing but the term has taken on a much different meaning given how those that identify as liberals act. Someone who was not deeply educated might want to see things they don't like be eliminated (authoritatively), but as a scholar, you learn more about the world and come to appreciate the diversity of thought and everything else that comes with it, making you more libertarian in leaning. Political opinion outside of that has nothing to do with it.

That being said, your political outlook, even the authoritative/libertarian part of it, depends on what you are taught. If you're taught like the Riddler Youth was, you're bound to have different opinions than the regular American college student at the time. Political opinions of the teachers, like it or not, affect the students. The Riddler Youth was probably being taught the same material as the regular American student, but laced with a deep dose of anti-Semitism and general hatred of anyone who didn't follow their political beliefs. Was their education on things like science and math stunted? Probably not. Was their outlook on the world stunted? Definitely.

This is why you hear people call for teachers to keep their political beliefs a secret and not to "y'know the rules say I can't do this but y'know I just gotta" their way out of it. Students are supposed to come to political decisions on their own, given information about the world. Considering that, it's easy to see the libertarian ideological leaning higher-educated people have.

ah yes i remember marx's extensive theses on cloudgender
there aren't a discrete number of genders, gender is a spectrum of masculine / feminine expression. most people are on either end and can just call themselves a man/woman. this isn't that complicated nor is it opposed by biology / psychology as far as i can tell

LOL

keep telling yourself that


i dont even know what the forget this means. would it surprise you that cornucopia of poe / troll / psychotic stuff you see on /r/TumblrInAction has very little to do with actually being a leftist? read a forgetin book
you and i seem to have very different definitions of 'radical leftist'. radical feminists and otherkin on tumblr aren't the "radical left"

except that is exactly what they are: radical leftists
have radical feminists or tumblr-kins ever substantially supported right-leaning people? I only know one, and even he's off and on the fence

If you use the word "hella" then your IQ is confirmed to be below 65.

Doesn't matter what you think. One person has a career in a trade and is making a decent wage, the other is working minimum wage after sinking themselves into 40k in debt with a degree that they will never use. Which one is smarter?
Damn I'm dumb as forget you got me there

That's sort of a loaded question. You're making lots of presumptions. Like that
1. all/most people in academia end up with useless degrees
2. you cant get a degree without putting yourself into massive debt (this is pretty Americentric and its not even true in America)
3. working minimum wage means you're not smart. if you can stay alive working at a low wage and your life is otherwise fine then it's not necessarily a bad or even worse option. musicians are a good example of people with fulfilling work that doesn't pay very well. but your life can be fulfilling without making a stuffload of money.
4. smart people can't make "bad" decisions (your definition of bad, not mine)

You also ignored the argument that rich people would probably like the Republican ideology of less taxation / government control of markets

I mean when people say stuff like "oh yeah reality definitly swings conservative forget the libs"

Wait that's a Matthew impression
I can do one too. "Emails"

I think people are getting their terms mixed up.

When everyone says "liberal", I hear "libertarian". I understand "classic liberalism" is a thing but the term has taken on a much different meaning given how those that identify as liberals act. Someone who was not deeply educated might want to see things they don't like be eliminated (authoritatively), but as a scholar, you learn more about the world and come to appreciate the diversity of thought and everything else that comes with it, making you more libertarian in leaning. Political opinion outside of that has nothing to do with it.

That being said, your political outlook, even the authoritative/libertarian part of it, depends on what you are taught. If you're taught like the Riddler Youth was, you're bound to have different opinions than the regular American college student at the time. Political opinions of the teachers, like it or not, affect the students. The Riddler Youth was probably being taught the same material as the regular American student, but laced with a deep dose of anti-Semitism and general hatred of anyone who didn't follow their political beliefs. Was their education on things like science and math stunted? Probably not. Was their outlook on the world stunted? Definitely.

This is why you hear people call for teachers to keep their political beliefs a secret and not to "y'know the rules say I can't do this but y'know I just gotta" their way out of it. Students are supposed to come to political decisions on their own, given information about the world. Considering that, it's easy to see the libertarian ideological leaning higher-educated people have.
I've always thought of libertarian to mean someone who is mainly concerned with letting the free market sort everything out. I'm not sure if I've ever heard it used to describe something more philosophical like you're saying.

It seems like you're attributing the left-lean of academia to the left-lean of the professors and teachers. But why do the professors and teachers lean left?
I'm also not sure if I agree with the argument that libertarianism (your definition) springs naturally from becoming smarter. That's sort of a big leap to make with the vague hand-waving you justified it with

except that is exactly what they are: radical leftists
have radical feminists or tumblr-kins ever substantially supported right-leaning people? I only know one, and even he's off and on the fence
I never said that those kinds of people couldn't be considered leftists. They may be radical and on the left, but that doesn't make them representative of actual "radical leftists",
 which is the point I was making. (namely, socialists, communists, anarchists, and all folks in between)

You also ignored the argument that rich people would probably like the Republican ideology of less taxation / government control of markets

Good for them. People with basic common sense also don't like the government taking their money and controlling everything they see.

I voted both because I find SJWs who complain about privilege yet attend schools like Harvard and Yale pretty snooty, but anti-SJWs are so much more annoying. Like, I've never seen a group of people who are so easily pissed off that not everybody agrees with what they have to say. Nevermind they buy into the whole "silenced conservative" bullstuff narrative in a college environment when you can't even publish a story critical of capitalism in the school newspaper. For people who want to push back against "outrage culture" they do nothing but get outraged at things in media and academia just like their left-wing counterparts. Most of them are either teenagers who have never been on a college campus or dumbforgets who are mad people disagree with them and really don't give a stuff about what they have to say.

Considering that you are a commie nothing you say holds any value Leisure

I voted both because I find SJWs who complain about privilege yet attend schools like Harvard and Yale pretty snooty
Harvard and Yale both have crazy endowments so the financial aid is incredible. I'm pretty sure you can pretty much go there for free if you can't afford it. Granted, there are probably students that only get to go to Ivies because their parents are rich af.

Considering that you are a commie nothing you say holds any value Leisure
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How old are you

Are you seriously trying to defend and call SJWs smart

Have you been living under a rock ooooooooor
this just in: all liberals are sjws

sjw's are worse because without them then the anti-sjw's wouldn't exist (but the same type of people would, e.g. neckbeards and trolls)

without sjw's, anti-sjw's are just massive pricks making edgy comments looking for attention


the sjws smashed my mailbox and prank called me during work

It seems like you're attributing the left-lean of academia to the left-lean of the professors and teachers. But why do the professors and teachers lean left?
hint:  it may have to do with the general success of properly implemented left policies.