Author Topic: The new and improved 3D model topic!  (Read 4693552 times)

My gripes with Milkshape 3D is that it doesn't like skeletons that have joints rotated in a way that is normal in all other programs, so if you do literally anything, the rotation of the joints change to a more normal rotation, aka, towards the bone that's connected to it, but that's not good if you're modeling for the Source Engine or something, because then your model becomes horribly distorted and junk

Then there's importing models with smoothing groups, smoothing groups aren't actually created for each smoothed piece of mesh in the model, it's just faked and thrown into the first smoothing group, so doing anything will cause all the smoothing groups to disappear as if all the vertices in the model were welded together

You can technically get around that by selecting the first smoothing group and assigning it to the last smoothing group, but now the model's lighting won't update if you rotate any part of it

Working with weights can be an issue at times, but nothing severe, the biggest issue is that you need a tall enough screen to fit all of the buttons in the Joints menu, aka, the buttons on the bottom that are needed to view and update the weights for the selected vertices

It's also a pain to do simple things like beveling, selecting certain faces that you want to add to a smoothing group, and also, for some reason, while animating, the selected bone and the mesh assigned to it may randomly start to expand on it's own even though all you're doing is rotating it

And animating in general can be a pain

And then there's the Torque DTS Plus Exporter that has various options for materials, but are grayed out and can not be used, ever, they basically serve no purpose and probably would've only worked for the Torque Game Engine Advanced if Garage Games had stuck with it instead of changing it to Torque 3D and changing how models and materials work

Basically, only use Milkshape 3D for Blockland or other Torque Game Engine games and no other unless you're a masochist or something
I suggest using Milkshape to model, then use something else to script it, doesn't Blender let you script things?
I don't know if Milshape 3D does because I'm not modelling anything ATM cause I have no suggestions for what to model.

I suggest using Milkshape to model, then use something else to script it, doesn't Blender let you script things?
I don't know if Milshape 3D does because I'm not modelling anything ATM cause I have no suggestions for what to model.
I don't think you understand what scripting is. notepad lets you script. you don't need a special program for it, although some make it easier
in Blender, you can use Python to automate certain modeling tasks (at least, I think so), or you can use it in the Blender game engine, which, by the way, I don't think anyone really suggests using
but Blender doesn't make it any easier to make the script for something in Blockland

Desert Eagle (View in 3D)


Reworked my old Deagle a little, though all my old animations are gone :c




Khain showed me the light
« Last Edit: December 05, 2014, 04:39:24 PM by JakeBlade »

Man you finally fixed the banana hat

Just recently learned how to animate weapons in Milkshape. Also took the time to improve on model making, and came up with this:



« Last Edit: December 05, 2014, 09:48:46 PM by knuckles31 »

i dont really like the point



do it more like this knife's point

I think he was aiming for something like this:


i dont really like the point

do it more like this knife's point

I see where you're getting at. Mainly, I was inspired to do a take on a Ninjato, however, I did pull an idea from here and freestyled the rest as I went on. Thanks for the feedback.

I think he was aiming for something like this:

Interesting. I wasn't, but that's definitely a must-do.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2014, 11:24:37 PM by knuckles31 »



I want to forget that elf girl.



um get yourselves armed the noobs are coming

[i mg]http://i.imgur.com/MuYwJRY.png[/img]

um get yourselves armed the noobs are coming
I WANT TO forget THESE

i like the variety in the triggers