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48÷2(9+3) = ?

2
20 (25.3%)
288
38 (48.1%)
meth not even once
21 (26.6%)

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No it's ambiguous because the person that wrote the formula didn't make his intentions on how to calculate it clear.
And where are you getting this rule? From the order of operations?

The person who wrote the equation could have mean't to write: 48/(2(9+3))
or: (48/2)(9+3)

If the person would have written 48 / 2 * 9 + 3 and it would have been even more ambiguous.

Considering you don't know the intentions of the person and the equation is ambiguous, it has multiple answers.
normal math logic implies that 48/2 is the coefficient of the term (9+3)
write 48/2 as a fraction in front of the 9+3. what does 48/2 simplify to? 24. so 24 is the new coefficient. 24(9+3).
what else would you do here exactly?

wtf is PEDMAS we canadias here use BEDMAS
though I think the only difference is instead of calling them parenthesis we just call them "brackets"
here in antarctica we use LSDTPM
lines
small numbers
divide
times
plus
minus

neat, no?

Whats so ambiguous about it exactly? If you understand HOW PEMDAS is SUPPOSED to work, equations lose ambiguity.

Lets break it down

48/2(9+3)
Ok, so what gets people is the 2. Its not surrounded by parenthesis, so we can cut out this bullstuff 48/(2(9+3))
To separate it a little more, we write it as 48/2*(9+3) even though its kinda redundant, because we SHOULD know that in algebra, when a number is directly next to parenthesis, you multiple whats inside.

Now, for P. We solve in the Parenthesis, which becomes 48/2(12)
Now we have people who decide to EITHER:
A) add in parenthesis [like so 48/(2(12))]
or
B) Take PEMDAS too seriously and does multiplication first. Both are incorrect.
That aside, we move to the M and D. This is important. This is not "M then D"
So, we take a look at it again: 48/2*(12)

"Oh but look multiplication lets do th-" NO, you see this little thing here "/"(or ÷)? It means Division. Now, if we look back a few lines, we said M and D, which means neither is more important than the other.
So, we solve that. 48/2 becomes 24. Now, to put that back in, we would have 24(12)
Next, we look at it again. Parenthesis was solved, no exponents, but there is some multiplication, so we solve for that
24(12)=288


Now, if we solve it wrong and decide to be little forgeters who add in parenthesis, like so: 48/(2(9+3))
We would go into the parenthesis, then solve inside the next parenthesis and get 12 (we did this already)
Then, we multiple 2 and 12
We will have after all that 48/24, which is two. Now, this was is completely wrong, because like I said, it wasn't written this[  48/(2(9+3))  ] way and we can use PEMDAS like nice little smart adults.

normal math logic implies that 48/2 is the coefficient of the term (9+3)
write 48/2 as a fraction in front of the 9+3. what does 48/2 simplify to? 24. so 24 is the new coefficient. 24(9+3).
what else would you do here exactly?

Only thing wrong would be that you solve 9+3 first because its in parenthesis, but other than that, this is correct.

Only thing wrong would be that you solve 9+3 first because its in parenthesis, but other than that, this is correct.
i left that out because i wasnt solving it i was just simplifying 48/2

The OP literally explains it. 2(9+3) is a single term, just like 2x.

f(x) = 48/2x

Simplifies to f(x) = 24/x

This is fully simplified.

Solve f(9+3).

24/(9+3)

Order of operations. Parenthesis first. 24/(12) = 2.

Edit: whoops, made a math error but it's all good. Fixed it with same answer.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2014, 01:21:02 PM by $trinick »

OH MY GOD

so we have the ÷ symbol right? look at it. DOT OVER DOT
This implies that 48 is the top dot, and anything that follows after it is the bottom dot, 2(9+3)

is this the trick here? the actual meaning of the ÷ symbol?

WTFFFF
SO THAT MEANS
48 OVER (2(9+3))
2

OR 288
OR BOTH
OR NONE WHAT

f(x) = 48/2x
Simplifies to f(x) = 24/x
48/2x = 24x not 24/x
how on earth did you get that
« Last Edit: September 20, 2014, 01:22:22 PM by Ipquarx »

The OP literally explains it. 2(9+3) is a single term, just like 2x.

2*(9+3) is not a single term what are you doing trinick

suddenly the lunch time bell rings

can someone look up the real meaning of the ÷ symbol as opposed to the rest?
i read this somewhere as the actual answer. ÷ symbol implies that anything before it is the numerator and anything after is the denominator

is that true or ultimate bullstuff?

Trinick please you know better


can someone look up the real meaning of the ÷ symbol as opposed to the rest?
i read this somewhere as the actual answer. ÷ symbol implies that anything before it is the numerator and anything after is the denominator

is that true or ultimate bullstuff?
iirc it just means that the 2 digits are being put on a fraction (left being numerator and right being denominator)