How do we force darkness on people without shaders?

[Shift Kitty]

Nothing on my mind, apart from making a 'server addon' that essentially copies default shaders and makes everything have max shaders (which is a very dumb idea, considering that my game crashes at max shaders), which I believe could be possible with torque.

No one said anything about max.

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[Lord Tony®]

you could make black fog to limit their sight i think???

Environment settings > view distance
It's less fog than it is just a crappy-looking wall of black

If these people don't set their shaders to minimum they won't even get the "fog" vignette effect on their screen. Which is why minimum should be permanently on, everyone can support minimum.


So with the off setting we get no darkness and no fog.

[Lord Tony®]

Minimum shaders off.




Minimum shaders on.






So as you can see not even fog distance is a reliable option. No fog and no darkness.

[Lord Tony®]

While this would make using darkness much more viable of a gameplay concept in Blockland, I don't think it's worth the number of people we'd lose to that.
Either from the people who would be unable to run it, the people who would have poorer performance with it, or the people who outright do not like it.

You would have to have the absolute WORST computer imaginable. My old Windows XP could support shaders on minimum and it had a loving intel graphics card. My RAM in total was only 512mb and I experienced no performance issues on minimum.


If you can't run shaders on even minimum then it's time get a new computer.

[Shift Kitty]

You would have to have the absolute WORST computer imaginable. My old Windows XP could support shaders on minimum and it had a loving intel graphics card. My RAM in total was only 512mb and I experienced no performance issues on minimum.


If you can't run shaders on even minimum then it's time to upgrade that toaser.

As already explained. For the most part, it's not that people can't run it, it's that they either experience slower performance with it, or for whatever reason don't like it. I can personally run med/high, but when I've brought up shaders before, not sure if under the same context, there were several people saying they either don't like shaders at all or experience performance issues.

[Lord Tony®]

Who seriously has performance issues on minimum? How many people do you know that suffer these issues? There are no shadows on minimum, it just provides the shiny effect.

If you suffer any performance issues on minimum you have the absolute worst computer imaginable. There is nothing else to it.

[Shift Kitty]

Who seriously has performance issues on minimum? How many people do you know that suffer these issues? There are no shadows on minimum, it just provides the shiny effect.

If you suffer any performance issues on minimum you have the absolute worst computer imaginable. There is nothing else to it.

In this very topic, three people.

It lags so much when i have shaders on, i probably need to get a desktop instead of this laptop.
EDIT: jesus 900th post

Well I can run minimum but it still lags a lot more than if I don't use it at all.

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on my old comp it didn't even work so it didn't matter. and on that i lagged at 20k bricks

[Lord Tony®]

In this very topic, three people.

Three people with terrible computers.

If they have trouble running Blockland then they have trouble running ANY game on steam. Did you ask what kind of PC specs they have?

[Lord Tony®]

I have 10gbs of RAM
GT 620 1gb graphics card.
i5 core
Drivers fully updated.

I have performance issues with Blockland around high to ultra.



Once I upgrade to a 960 4gb graphics card I'll be able to run even Fallout 4 on ultra.  I doubt I'll have an issue with Blockland.

[Shift Kitty]

Blockland is more resource intensive than a number of games on Steam, relative to brick/object count.

[Lord Tony®]

Blockland is more resource intensive than a number of games on Steam, relative to brick/object count.

Chances are if they have performance issues on minimum they most likely have performance issues with minimum off.

Time to upgrade.

[Lord Tony®]

When you were busy quoting people you forgot to leave some things out.

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on my old comp it didn't even work so it didn't matter. and on that i lagged at 20k bricks

although yes, with any decent modern computer you shouldn't have issues,

i probably need to get a desktop instead of this laptop.

My server has a 109k brick build. Do you know how many people tell me to clear the build because they can't handle that many bricks? That's not my issue, that's their issue.

[Shift Kitty]

Yes, but the forums are only a small portion of actual players.
And this is just one thread.
I would love it if we could at least force minimum. But it's not going to be done because there will be an impact on the playerbase.
From Badspot's likely perspective, it wouldn't really be worth removing the 'off' shaders. Killing off any number of players isn't really worth it when you notice that the only thing you're doing is just enabling a server or two, without even knowing if they'll gain any significant popularity or actually last a decent amount of time.

[The Resonte!]

i remember that dezcaban (i think) made attempted a server which did fancy stuff so it's dark for anyone, even without shaders enabled

http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=240736.0

[Lord Tony®]

i remember that dezcaban (i think) made attempted a server which did fancy stuff so it's dark for anyone, even without shaders enabled

http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=240736.0

some blocklanders insist on playing with their grandma's $10 email-checker I had to build it on 'off' settings

What a shame. You could buy a less than 200 dollar modern computer these days and it could run Blockland with at least shaders on low.

From Badspot's likely perspective, it wouldn't really be worth removing the 'off' shaders. Killing off any number of players isn't really worth it when you notice that the only thing you're doing is just enabling a server or two, without even knowing if they'll gain any significant popularity or actually last a decent amount of time.

Should Fallout 4 dumb their graphics down to 1990 graphics if everyone has a 10 dollar grandma email checker?