two pages of tat about how much a fascist someone is or how angry and silly they're being/have been is not meaningful discussion.
Maybe that's because it's not about a meaningful discussion with Deus Ex, that's basically impossible. I'm trying to make him elaborate on his train of thought so I can convince anyone browsing this thread that "Betraying your party makes you a traitor/enemy" is a horrible way to go about this all.
If you disagree with the method, well, you're not really providing a great argument against it.